Read more here http://jp2m.blogspot.ca/2007/10/john-paul-ii-portrait-by-danish-artist.html
If mandatory reporting in the Children’s First Bill means that priests will have to report any concerns of children at risk, and this will include anything they may be told in confession then I personally don’t have a problem with that. The church can’t claim it want’s do all it can to help children, particularly those at risk… but when it comes to the one place priests are likely to be told or hear such information, sorry, they won’t reveal it. Even if it means doing what they claimed, helping the most vulnerable children.
In this regard that cartoon was very accurate, they’ll say they WILL do anything for children, but when it comes down to it, they won’t do that.
The apology published by The Irish Times today is an important acknowledgment that Martyn Turner’s cartoon last Wednesday crossed a line. The cartoon caused immense upset, not on Twitter, or even in mainstream media, but among those who abhor seeing innocent people demonised.
The cartoon features three priests, one of whom is emerging from a confessional carrying a Bible. Another priest holds up the headline: Children First Bill – Mandatory Reporting. The three priests sing together: “I’d do anything for children (but I won’t do that).”
Had that been all, it would not be a daring or original cartoon, but it could be argued that it remained – just about – within the bounds of acceptable commentary. You might argue it was somewhat tasteless to mock a Catholic sacrament during Holy Week. You might even wince a bit at the satire of “singing priests”, given the best-known singing priests are humble men who raise phenomenal amounts of money for charity. However, on the right of the cartoon in small print it states: “But there is little else you can do for them [children] except stay away from them, of course.”
The Irish Times
Sat, Apr 19, 2014
At The Irish Times the default position has been and will remain that the views expressed, often robustly, by our columnists and contributors such as cartoonist Martyn Turner, are largely sacrosanct. We’re in the business of providing a platform for civilised debate between articulators of a wide range of views from left to right, social conservative to liberal, to whatever you’re having yourself, and whose presence in these pages has never implied our endorsement .
That aspiration is very much in the spirit of the obligations placed on the paper’s editors by the Irish Times Trust’s principles which require the paper to ensure that “comment and opinion shall be informed and responsible ... and special consideration shall be given to the reasonable representation of minority interests and divergent views” and to uphold “the promotion of peace and tolerance and opposition to all forms of violence and hatred, so that each man may live in harmony with his neighbour, considerate for his cultural, material and spiritual needs.”
That means, however, that there is no carte blanche , and that there are ground rules which we try to adhere to, mostly with no argument from those contributors. Civilised debate, we accept, requires the eschewing of ad hominem argument, playing the ball, not the man, and avoiding crude stereotyping.
THE IRISH TIMES has apologised for a controversial Martyn Turner cartoon, calling its publication an “editorial lapse”.
In an apology published today, the paper said that Turner “took an unfortunate and unjustified side-swipe at all priests, suggesting that none of them can be trusted with children”.
The cartoon, which was removed from the paper’s website, depicted three priests standing next to each other; the priest in the centre was holding a paper with ‘Children’s First Bill’ and ‘mandatory reporting’ written on it.
The Bill will make it mandatory for certain professions and post-holders to report incidents of harm and the risk of harm
The Irish Times’ apology today said the paper ‘regrets and apologies for the hurt caused’.
"This has, unsurprisingly, caused considerable offence and we regret and apologise for the hurt caused by the cartoon whose use in that form, we acknowledge, reflected a regretable [sic] editorial lapse."
The apology notes that the views of columnists and contributors are “largely sacrosanct”, but that under obligations placed on the paper by the Irish Times Trust, “there are ground rules”.
The Irish Times
[Vatican delegation delayed church reform, says Martin]
Full interview with head of Dublin diocese by Patsy McGarry
Sat, Apr 19, 2014
The Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin will be 10 years in that role on Saturday next, April 26th. He reflects on the past decade in an interview with Religious Affairs Correspondent Patsy McGarry.
What was the high point of the past 10 years where you are concerned?
“It was the way in which the peoples in our parishes rallied after the Murphy report (it investigated the handling of clerical child sex abuse allegations in the Dublin archdiocese and was published in November 2009) and the establishment of robust child protection facilities. It was very impressive to see how people took responsibility to address a problem and a challenge which they didn’t cause. The 2012 Eucharistic Congress was an important event. Will it go down in the corporate memory of Ireland as did the 1932 Eucharistic Congress? The answer is no.”
And the low point?
“The Murphy report. The most traumatic experience was the gathering and acquainting myself with the information involved with the report, as well as listening to victims, which is still going on. Listening to the trauma brought on them, families, spouses and children…The Murphy Commission couldn’t have worked if we hadn’t co-operated. Some say gardaí and HSE got off light. We provided information and I haven’t the slightest remorse about having done that. I believe it was absolutely important that it come out. Looking back, the most frightening for me is that we had, at the same time, 10 serial (clerical) paedophiles active in the archdiocese of Dublin (in 1970s). There’s no way you can say that was system’s failure. That was a terrible thing. It’s very hard to explain it.”
Critics of the Murphy report have been busy of late. What’s your view of them?
“There’s a certain revisionism of the Murphy report abroad. I have no mandate to defend Judge Murphy but there was a reality there. If people don’t say that shouldn’t have happened then I don’t know what world they belong in. The Pope himself has said that he wants to take/assume a responsibility within the Church for what happened. There can be no denial of that and there can be no denial that the Church in which that happened had got it severely wrong.
The Irish Times
[Archbishop Diarmuid Martin reflects on past decade]
Visitation from Rome in wake of Murphy report and Ryan report ‘froze the Irish church’
Sat, Apr 19, 2014
A delegation sent by Rome following the publication of the Murphy and Ryan reports effectively held up reform of the church in Ireland and “set expectations it was never going to realise”, Catholic Archbishop Dr Diarmuid Martin of Dublin has said.
They were dispatched by the Vatican following the publication of the reports in 2009 to establish what went wrong in the Irish church.
The apostolic visitation, which comprised seven high-powered teams, “froze the Irish church at a particular moment” and “actually, in some ways, delayed reforms in the Irish church”, Archbishop Martin said.
In a veiled criticism of the Vatican, he said his comments were not a criticism of those who carried out the visitation, but “maybe a criticism of those who planned it”.
The Murphy report examined the handling of allegations of clerical child sex abuse in the Dublin archdiocese and was published in November 2009. The Ryan report on abuse in residential institutions for children was published in May of the same year.
The Irish Times
The Catholic Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin warned against the corrosive effects of cynicism and criticised a cartoon in this newspaper yesterday.
He was speaking at the Holy Thursday Chrism Mass in the Dublin’s Pro Cathedral this morning. At the ceremony, oils are blessed for use during the coming year in the administration of the Church’s sacraments.
“Holy Thursday and this Chrism Mass are special moments when we renew our commitment to ministry,” the Archbishop said. “Renewal can be painful and means moving out of the comfort zones that each of us create for ourselves or allow ourselves to slip into. Cynicism or scepticism are never the responses of the genuinely committed. Cynicism is not smart. Cynicism is not noble. Cynicism robs creative energy. The challenges we face within this diocese requires new energy and new enthusiasm and new realism,” he said.
Referring to the cartoon in yesterday’s edition of this newspaper, which dealt with the conflict between mandatory reporting of child abuse and respect for the seal of the confessional, he said:“I know that many priests and people feel hurt by a cartoon in yesterday’s Irish Times. I am a strong believer in freedom of speech and of the vital role of satire in social criticism, but I object to anything that would unjustly tarnish all good priests with the unpardonable actions of some. We have great priests in the Archdiocese of Dublin. ”
The cartoon by Martyn Turner shows three priests standing next to each other.
The priest in the centre is holding a paper that has “Children’s First Bill” written on it as well “mandatory reporting”.
Earlier this week, the Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald said the Children First Bill will make it mandatory for certain professions and post-holders to report incidents of harm and the risk of harm to the Child and Family Agency.
Speaking on Holy Thursday in the Pro Cathedral in Dublin today, Martin said:
I know that many priests and people feel hurt by a cartoon in yesterday’s Irish Times.
I am a strong believer in freedom of speech and of the vital role of satire in social criticism, but I object to anything that would unjustly tarnish all good priests with the unpardonable actions of some.
We have great priests in the Archdiocese of Dublin.
Auxiliary Bishops, priests, deacons, religious and lay men and women from the parishes from Wicklow, Kildare, Wexford, Carlow, Laois, as well as Dublin City and county were present in mass today.
Martin went on to say that there have been many changes in the Church and in society since each of them were ordained.
“For those of my age and older the social image and position of the priest has changed enormously. Many of the functions which a priest used to exercise in the Church have now been rightly assumed by lay men and women. Many of the general social functions which a priest used to exercise in society are assumed now outside a specific church framework. Many of the traditional social supports for the priest have been weakened,” he said.
He paid special tribute to older priests who he said had experienced “rapid and deep social change” but who continue to “remain fresh” in their commitment and understanding of the ministry.
Speaking about priests that have suffered from anxiety, difficulty or failure, Martin said:
He added that the office for priests is strengthening, adding, “We have much to be proud of as we face ever growing challenges”.
Martin concluded by saying the moment priests loose the hopes and aspirations which first drew priests towards priestly ministry, is the day they become trapped in their own frustration.
“We have to rediscover those hopes and aspirations and the ideals if we have lost them,” said Martin.
Here are some more cartoons.
Comments sent by Irish priests
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Priests and nuns are not holier or better than lay teachers, nurses, social workers, doctors, lab technicians, the police, firefighters, workers at McDonalds and restaurants, janitors, all professions and laborers.
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Remember the historical cloned sheep Dolly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_(sheep) It was the cream of the crop top team of scientists who cloned her.
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